i forgot to add that last night, someone cleaned out my bikebag. I was really suprized. I had the bike locked up in front of powells at about 10:30pm. I was in the front room the whole time - very close to where the bike was locked. When I came back the little bag under the seat was empty. It had bits o' bike things. tire levels, a patch kit, a couple allen wrenches, some tylenol, so its not a big deal. but they left my bike computer and the tire pump both of which come off easily and is worth more than anything in the seat bag.